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We Destroyed The World by NicklausofKrieg We Destroyed The World by NicklausofKrieg
"Prepare for the future"
-Fallout 3

"Fear the future"
-Metro 2033

"Man made hell"
-S.T.A.L.K.E.R.

been on a big post-apocalyptic binge lately, after playing long stretches of Fallout 3 (and modding it every step of the way), i finally picked up a copy of Metro 2033 off of a Steam sale.

now after playing the two games in quick succession i really do now feel the almost polar opposite differences between the two portrayals of post-apocalypse i've always thought of.

so on the left we have a Stalker, a Russian post-apocalypse/sci-fi archetype first appearing in the 1972 novel Roadside Picnic, and in 1979 film adaptation of the novel titled Stalker. since then the term "Stalker" has basically become the Russian equivalent in meaning to the America term "Wastelander/Wasteland Scavenger" being used in many other post-apocalypse/sci-fi titles, such as in Metro 2033, the surface scavengers are called Stalkers, and of course the S.T.A.L.K.E.R. video game series where they made it into an acronym meaning, "Scavengers, Trespassers, Adventurers, Loners, Killers, Explorers, Robbers".

and on the right, we have a Road Warrior, the term has a very wide coverage, ranging from electronics, business, and driving, but in the context of post-apocalyptia it basically refers to a person who looks badass. besides that, it is the post-apocalyptic derivative to the old term "Junkpunk", referring to the fashion and road-tripping culture portrayed in the Mad Max film series especially so in Mad Max 2: The Road Warrior.

+UPDATE+
tweaked the drawing a bit.
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randomM0nst3rXD Featured By Owner Apr 22, 2014
pss if u wish i have a Metro 2033 armors for Fallout NV ....message me if u need it
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albanianstyle Featured By Owner Dec 27, 2013
STALKER Teaching you nuclear fallout doesn't kill guitar camp fire sessions  

Like it! 
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randomeye713 Featured By Owner Nov 12, 2013
Looking at this, I realized one can learn a lot about a culture by how they imagine a post-apocalyptic survivor. 
Russians are more realistic, I think.

Unrelated idea but still relating to post-apoc: 
Nuclear Mages. They can channel atomic power and use it to heat and mutate stuff.
Good mages can heal people by killing tumors and cleaning water by boiling it.
Bad mages cause tumors and kill people.
Sound interesting?
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NicklausofKrieg Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
yeah if you ask me Russia was way more terrified at the prospect of a nuclear exchange. the American's lasting memories of the heyday of the nuclear age was the defeat of Japan with the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki, and the Russians on the other hand? Chernobyl. America is pretty much the only country in the world who has somewhat fond memories about nukes, and of course they're the only ones to ever use them in hostility.

that does sound interesting, though i'm not so sure about the whole "good and bad" idea, perhaps it could simply be power at a price instead? i think it stays more true to the nature of the relationship between humanity and nuclear power.
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Corporal-Yakob Featured By Owner Nov 10, 2013
I'm suffering from Fallout New Vegas fatigue myself: I have this irritating and downright exasperating habit of siding with a faction, playing through three quarters of the game and putting serious effort into exploration and leveling up before I start thinking "Hey, wouldn't it be cool if I did all these quests as the other guys!" and restart the entire game, deleting all my old saves in the process and inevitably collapsing from the realisation I'll have to do all those quests again. Awesome (albeit Enclave-less) game though! 

I still have Metro 2033 on my gaming computer but haven't played it in years. All I can really remember is the underground Eastern Front business going on between the Red Line and Reich stations, which was just pure brilliance in my World War biased opinion and was expertly continued in Last Light, which is a game I freaking love.

Never seen the Road Warrior films but I realize what they've done for the post-apocalyptic genre: isn't there a remake coming out sometime soon?

Oddly enough, I just can't get into the S.T.A.L.K.E.R games - dad absolutely loves them and they sound perfect for me on paper but I've only ever played the first game and that was only for about twenty minutes.

As for the picture itself, I like the contrast in the two different approaches to a fethed up world: a prepared and organised approach on the left with necessary survival gear and "I'm gonna slap on all the leather I can find and go fuck shit up!" lady on the left.
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NicklausofKrieg Featured By Owner Nov 16, 2013
yeah i kinda had the same problem with New Vegas too, i really lacked direction and any real motivation to play through the game a certain way. a problem i kinda had with Fallout 3 as well. i think the game just gives you TOO much choice and eventually too much power you always end up being a jack of all trades, and thus lose any motivation to stick to a unique playstyle you feel suits your character. i mean why should i go stealthy when i can just as easily gun everyone down? sure, maybe shooting my way through is more expensive, but there is indeed a point i always reach in which resources are no problem at all.
or at least, that's the problem i've always had.
still a good game i suppose.

oddly enough i was a bit put off by the war between the Reich and the Red Line stations, the war was on too much a large scale that i felt myself departing a bit from the post-apocalyptic setting, especially in a location as small as a single city's metro system. i think i would've found something more akin to gang warfare to look more believable, but not some sort of a full scale war. i haven't played Last Light yet but i guess i'll get when an opportune moment arises, it sounds pretty cool to me despite a few odd things i hear now and then, especially so on its handling of women, have you seen anything regarding that firsthand?

same here, i haven't played S.T.A.L.K.E.R., but it does seem a perfect game for me, besides that i really just feel i must experience a game like that myself.

well as some have observed the Russians seem to have a more realistic outlook on a post-apocalyptic world, and definitely a more frightening one too. Americans on the other hand seem to find it as a second frontiersman's age, a second wild west if you will, and of course as we all know that was one time period in American history that is very romanticized.
Americans see a clean slate, a brave new world full of opportunities, the old system is gone so you must go out there, and mold the world to your whim while you still can! 
Russians are regretful and loss hangs in the air, haunted by the old world as they suffer from the new, almost like a punishment, what a beautiful world we've destroyed!

now, though i lean more to the Russian perspective, i suppose they both come up with their own good stories.
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Corporal-Yakob Featured By Owner Dec 19, 2013
I felt that New Vegas suffered from less a immersive plotline then it's immediate predecessor: since it was the first experience of the Fallout universe from such a close perspective (I had Brotherhood of Steel for the PS2 which, while a fun co-op game, wasn't the same at all), I was more readily engaged in exploring the wastes, sidelining the search for my errant father in order to do the interesting side-quests from unique characters. There was nothing like stepping out of a Vault for the first time in New Vegas. However, New Vegas was a lot more liberal minded in its application of morality and karma; evil quests in Fallout 3 were just "Murder the dude" whereas you could actually join Caesers Legion and restore a brutal and ruthless order to the wastes in the sequel. Not many games give you the freedom to be Lawfully Evil. Agreed with your balance point as well: just put all your SPECIAL points into Luck at the get-go and you'll trip over caps, ammo and high quality equipment!

Really? That war was my favourite part of the universe; the levels where you sneaked through the gaping chasm of a wrecked metro serving as the frontline between Red and Reich were incredibly cool, particularly with the opportunity to eavesdrop on opposing soldiers and their chit-chat. Plus it is stated that Red Line has the manpower to wage war.....

I have actually seen some of the "It's sexist" arguments but I don't think they hold much weight: people are upset that a brothel has scantily clad dancers? Really? On the other hand though, there is a very limp-wristed attempt at a love plot with the main female character that is very out of place and the game is surprisingly graphic: bare breasts with no censorship. Which astonished me because I have an Australian edition and they usually can't wait to cut content from games at the behest of moral guardians. In summary, I wouldn't let any concerns over the portrayal of women stop you from playing the game - and if you care that much, you could always just play the game to be offended first hand. ;)

:D I think I could get into it if it was on consoles; from past experience with PCs, I just can't get into the state of mind where I feel as though I could put in the time a good, weighty RPG deserves on a computer.

Now there is an excellent summary of the two outlooks!
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TheFoxtrot813 Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2013
I always enjoyed post Apocalyptic themed games. Metro 2033 was very fun however if it's open world. NOW that is something I would play and I really hope they make a S.T.A.L.K.E.R HD remake. Although I do now know what is the road warrior but judging from the girl I say it looks neat.
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NicklausofKrieg Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2013
yeah, Metro 2033 and S.T.A.L.K.E.R. are pretty much opposites when it comes to gameplay linear and open-world respectively.
you should go check out S.T.A.L.K.E.R.'s modding community there are plenty of mod that really bump up the graphics.
as for the Road Warrior, just imagine the people from Fallout.
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SirRinge Featured By Owner Nov 9, 2013  Student Traditional Artist
The filter on the mask is large, making the guy's head look a bit small xD But hey, no qualms here.
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