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K I L L 3X by NicklausofKrieg K I L L 3X by NicklausofKrieg
kinda odd how US marines used to look like back in the day, sporting blue-grey uniforms and all that. not as blue as in this drawing though

basically when the civil war broke out the USMC served under the union while the US rangers turned over to the confederates.
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Enrico1946 Nov 7, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
wow, two conflicting forces, the Rangers vs the Marines, eventhough both have different skills on the two different fronts in WWII (Marines to the Pacific The Rangers to Europe) both or the only vital forces that actually made the US Military today 
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:iconrandomeye713:
You should have the Confederacy be controlled by vampires, just like in Abraham Lincoln: Vampire slayer.
During the reconstruction, the southern aristocracy spread their vampirism all over the place just to spite the union and the french had to step in with their robots to safely restore the south.
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:iconnicklausofkrieg:
speaking of which how was "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire"? was it any good? i've always just shrugged it off thinking such an idea would end up cheesy

though i don't think we'll be using that "confederate vampire" idea (since we already have the civil war's history planned out). i have had the idea of strange old southern aristorcracies for quite a long time now, like vampirism, demonic possession and Cthulhu-esque secrets hidden in their manors and family histories

i should be venturing into that part some time around
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:iconcorporal-yakob:
That film has Abraham Lincoln killing vampires: how could it not be amazing?

Seriously, it was a great film; never cheesy and even had a strong Imperial Guard vibe from the bits where human Union soldiers fight their blood-sucking Confederate counter-parts.
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:iconnicklausofkrieg:
well i suppose i've just been jaded by most of the recent turn of the century alternate history movies. so much so i've simply just avoided them.

everyone's been suggesting it to me actually, so maybe i'll give it a shot some time around.
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:iconcorporal-yakob:
You see enough alternate history movies to become jaded by them? I think I can count the ones I've heard of, let alone see, on one hand!

You definitely should, though I may just be biased by my interest in the US Civil War and respect for Lincoln. :D
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:iconnicklausofkrieg:
well i've only really seen a handful, but i think it's not just movies but more of alternate history in general that's really got me jaded. it's always just about Nazis and how they came up with some new tech or something, or the Nazis pulling off some occult shit. or how Nazis went to space. if not Nazis then it's cowboys or English gentlefolk. another thing i really hate is when people get old classics like Sherlock Holmes or The Three Musketeers and just turn them into steampunk alternate history remakes. i mean seriously, if you're going to deviate that much from the original, why not come up with your own stuff?
and when it comes to artwork it seems that more and more people are getting more incapable of capturing their chosen time periods well. they say it's Victorian era but it doesn't look or feel very Victorian.
it's like the alternate history market has become just one big unoriginal stereotype of itself.
that's also why i've been quite adamant that there will be no Nazis in my alternate timeline.

perhaps i will give Lincoln a shot after all.
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:iconcorporal-yakob:
Ah right, best not excitedly mention the new Wolfenstein game then.....

I see what you mean though: I suppose the prevalence of Nazis in alternate-history fiction is because their quite easy to write if your lazy or just plain bad. Need a dramatic and "serious" threat for your sci-fi plot? Nazi moonbase! Need to make a point about characters abusing their time travelling powers? Nazi victory in WW2! And so on and so forth. Also regarding Nazi moonbases, don't ever, ever, ever watch Iron Sky. Seriously. Just don't. It's so fucking awful.....

I don't know if I've ever heard of a Steampunk Holmes but I've actually seen that remade Three Musketeers movie. It was just as stupid as the trailers made it out to be so, uh, full marks for consistency at least?

I agree on the Victorian point: where are the indentured servants funneling coal into the giant airships? ;)

You should, its a damn good film!
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:iconnicklausofkrieg:
oh i didn't even know there was gonna be a new one! i thought you were talking about that Wolfenstein game from a few years ago. well i think any Wolfenstein game can be forgiven in my book, after all it was one of the first to do the whole "Weird Reich" genre. not to say that i really liked the newer Wolfenstein games though.

i'll agree with you, and leave it at that. if i were to write on this comment all of the bones i have to pick with Nazis and alternate history in general i'd be writing forever. oh well, Iron Sky seemed more like an undertoned comedy to me, just like Dead Snow.

you know, the ones with Downey Jr., and Law? sure it wasn't at all THAT steampunk but all the political intrigue marks it as alternate history in my book. sure it was an alright film, but it sure as hell wasn't Sherlock Holmes.
the three musketeers was indeed stupid, even its flash couldn't save its story. because all of its stunts, poses, and effects, were just as awfully executed.
i'd say not even consistency will lend it much, you and i both know that consistency is only just as good as what it is exactly that's being consistent.

exactly my views on the Victorian point!
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:iconrandomeye713:
I never saw "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" but i loved the concept because it made sense. Plantation owners were allowed to do anything to their slaves and they had enough money to do anything with the squatters and yeomen farmers
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