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American Things by NicklausofKrieg American Things by NicklausofKrieg
here's some basic firearms used by Confederate and Union troops during the the second American civil war, from 1916, and ongoing to the current year of 1920.
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CalvinCoolidge1924 Featured By Owner Oct 11, 2014
God bless Dixie.
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DrRichoften Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
ny thought went in when i noticed there was no BAR 
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NicklausofKrieg Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014
well as the description states, these are all just basic weapons, no special weapons, or heavy weapons.

if i was going to include the BAR i would've also added the Hotchkiss, and a series of grenade launchers. maybe even a Lewis and a Chauchat too.
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DrRichoften Featured By Owner Sep 25, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
BAR was a basic weapon. well in WW2 it was.
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NicklausofKrieg Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
basic weapons are battle rifles, sub-machine guns, carbines, and assault rifles, basically versatile yet unimpressive weapons. the BAR is a light machine gun, therefore a support weapon, support weapons have more precise uses and are very good at what they do (such as suppressive fire or accurate sharpshooting) but not much good at anything else.

while individual infatryman's rifle is used for self defense, a support weapon like the BAR is more like a tactical asset for the entire squad.

also this is set just after 1918 so the BAR is still considered a very special, and modern weapon.
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DrRichoften Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
BAR was clasified as a  Assualt rifle during WW2. in WW1 it was a Support.
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NicklausofKrieg Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
that's a misinformed label at worst, and an outdated one at best. all official and or formal sources will call it an "Automatic Rifle" and therefore a machine gun, not an assault rifle. you really cannot compare the BAR to an STG44 or an M2 Carbine.

no, in WW2 it was use as a support weapon, in WW1 it was hardly used at all, by 1918 it was only issued to a few select units as an experimental weapon, it was never issued under regular circumstances during its one year service in WW1.
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DrRichoften Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014  Hobbyist General Artist
oye all the things i read it refers it as a Assualt rifle. But to me it's a very good Rifle/ support weapon.
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NicklausofKrieg Featured By Owner Sep 26, 2014
are you sure? in my entire life i've only ever heard of the BAR being referred to as an assault rifle twice. and they were from casual, hardly knowledgeable sources. i mean the, glaring differences that set a BAR and say an STG44 apart from each other are quite plain as day to anyone who has a lick of sense about firearms. also "Automatic Rifle" does not mean "Assault Rifle" mind you.

yeah the BAR was a good, robust gun. it's only problems were its open-bolt system, (making it more complicated than it needed to be) its small 20 round magazine, (which made it difficult to put down sustained fire) and its slow rate of fire compared to its contemporaries (they said it was to alleviate its small clip size, but they could've just easily increased its round capacity).
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menapia Featured By Owner Apr 8, 2014
Interesting timeline, what's the POD in this alt history why did the southerners decided to give secession another go?.

Also there would have been plenty of ex army kit around  the U.S in Virgina they had the Blair mountain rising which was the biggest insurrection since the war most of the miners who fought were vets of the Spanish-American War and the Phillipines Campaign the list of stuff confiscated would have been enough to kit out our Irish army!
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